| Re: new values for places and service [message #1964 is a reply to message #1960] |
Sun, 16 September 2018 14:23  |
Joerg von Lingen
Messages: 148
Registered: May 2011
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The wording of some arguments could be misleading:
1) "toddler" - There was no thought about special baby seats like in cars. Thus
the use of this value shall be set deprecated.
2) "toddlerCompartment" - Some operators do have special compartments not only
for family but for mothers with small child (Mutter mit Kind). Thus I would
leave this value in the list.
3) "stroller" - Yes, the capacity for accomadate strollers/prams is needed. I
would use this value instead as it is better wording than "toddler".
4) "strollerCompartment" - I would see the need either.
Best regards,
Joerg v. Lingen
Rollingstock Coordinator
On 14/09/2018 10:40, Torben Brand wrote:
> Final questions when it comes to <places>:
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> stroller
> The stroller (Kinderwagen) which we suggested to name
> category="stroller" is not in the enumeration list. Instead
> there is the value "toddler" In the wiki is explained as:
> • toddler This is used for identifying the capacity of
> seats in the vehicle in compartments for babys and
> toddlers.
> • toddlerCompartment This is used for identifying the
> number of compartments for babys and toddlers.
>
> Do these seats exist? Is there a need for baby seats?
> Usually they sit in the lap of their parents or lay in the
> stroller (thus the need to define how many strollers can fit
> in the train in designated areas).
> What to do?
> 1. keep «toddler» and «toddlerCompartment" as is and
> a. add "stroller" with definition "number of strollers that
> can fit in the train in designated areas"
> b. the Norwegian sector shall use "other:stroller" with
> definition "number of strollers that can fit in the train in
> designated areas"
> 2. keep «toddler» and «toddlerCompartment", but change
> wiki and xsd definition to "number of strollers that can fit
> in the train in designated areas" and "number of designated
> areas for strollers"
> 3. remove «toddler» and «toddlerCompartment" from XSD and
> wiki and add "stroller" and "strollerCompartment" to XSD and
> wiki (no need for strollerCompartment from Norway) .Should
> be OK since the values were added in a beta and RC phase.
> I'm in favor of choice 3.
>
> standing
> Our capacity need for distinguishing between different
> quality levels for "standing" was dismissed by Dirk. The
> Scheme coordinator has not taken a stand on this. Shall we
> use the values:
> "other:standingCategoryA", "other:standingCategoryB" and
> "other:standingCategoryC" ? This is fine by me.
>
> StandingArea
> For capacity assessment needs we need to be able to
> calculate with the standingArea when all folding seats are
> up (current implementation definition), but also the reduced
> area when they all are folded down. As this seems very
> specific we will make use of "other:standingAreaReduced".
>
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