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Re: new values for places and service [message #1757 is a reply to message #1750] Mon, 09 April 2018 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Joerg von Lingen is currently offline  Joerg von Lingen
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Thanks for your input. The additional attributes will be probably interesting
for other users as well. I will look for a good way to incorporate them into the
existing elements.

Best regards,
Joerg v. Lingen

Rollingstock Coordinator

On 05.04.2018 16:33, Torben Brand wrote:
> We need to define the following undefined values in the
> railML rolling stock schema for the use case capacity
> planning.
>
> The norwegian sector will use the already defined values in
> railML 2.3 in the wiki under <places> and <service>.  We
> will also define the following "other:" values:
>
> Suggestion towards definition of <places> and <service> We
> define places as capacity of the vehicle. So a 1. class seat
> or a bed is a place, but a toilet, a seat in the restaurant
> car is a service as this is used in addition to a place.
> <places>@category=
>
> As the Forum does not support tables I had to restructure
> the list accordingly:
> railML value
> English short definition
> Norwegian name
> Comment
>
> class1
> Seating capacity of the vehicle, class1/comfort class
> Sitteplasser komfort/1.klasse
>     
> class2
> Seating capacity of the vehicle, class2/standard
> Sitteplasser standard/2.klasse
>     
> standing
> Number of people capacity of the vehicle, standing
> Ståplasser, antall. Klappseter i bruk
>     
> other:standingArea
> capacity of the vehicle, standing room in square meters.
> Flip-up seats not in use.
> Ståplassareal, klappseter ikke i bruk   
> Use <place> for now. Should be moved to an element
> describing technical characteristics of the
> <wagon/passanger> later.
>
> other:folding
> Flip-up seats (folding and resting). Folding seats are seats
> with dedicated area for the seat when it is folded down.
> Resting seats are in dedicated standing area (like
> entry/exit area)   
> Klappseter (folde og klapp)   
> We do not differentiate between folding and resting seats
> here.
>
> wheelchair
> Dedicated place(s) for wheelchair(s)    
> Rullestolplasser   
>
> bicycle
> Dedicated place(s) for bicyle(s)   
> Sykkelplasser    
> Use <place> for now, as already defined there. Should be
> moved to <service> to be conform to definition?
>
> bed
> Number of bed (s). Not differentiated in class.   
> Soveplasser
>     
> other:sleepingCompartment
> Number of sleeping compartments. Not differentiated in
> class.   
> Sovekupeer
> TAF/TAP differentiates in class of compartment and number of
> beds in the compartment. Should be grouped somehow later.
>
> other:family
> capacity of seats in the vehicle in family compartment with
> family services like playroom and baby wagon storage
> area/places. Services not defined.   
> Famileavdeling, antall sitteplasser   
>     
> other:restaurant
> Seating capacity in the restaurant/dining car   
> Resturant (antall sitte plasser)   
> Use <place> for now. Should be moved to <service> to be
> conform to definition?
>
>
> <service>@name=
>
> other:wheelchairLift   
> Onboard Wheelchair lift   
> Rullestolheis   
> Separate code list for PRM in TAF/TAP. But this does not
> contain onboard wheel chair lift.
>
> other:toiletClosed
> toilet with closed sewer system   
> Toalett (lukket system)   
> Should be grouped later. Did not find any code list for
> toilets in TAF/TAP?
>
> other:toiletOpen   
> toilet with open sewer system   
> Toalett (lukket system)   
>
> other:toiletHc   
> toilet for impaired passengers   
> Toalett (lukket system)   
>
> other:Snack   
> Kiosk (no seating)   
> Betjent kiosk   
>
> other:SelfService   
> Food/drink vending machines   
> Automat   
>
> other:PIS   
> Passenger information system   
> Informasjonssystem   
> Count:"1"=yes, Count:"0"=no or no value. Should be moved to
> an element describing technical characteristics of the
> <wagon/passanger> with bolean value later.
>        
> other:WLAN   
> WLAN/WiFi   
> WiFi   
> Count:"1"=yes, Count:"0"=no or no value. Should be moved to
> an element describing technical characteristics of the
> <wagon/passanger> with bolean value later.
>        
> other:HVAC    
> Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning   
> HVAC for passasjerer   
> Count:"1"=yes, Count:"0"=no or no value. Should be moved to
> an element describing technical characteristics of the
> <wagon/passanger> with bolean value later.
>
> other:APC   
> Automatic passenger counting system   
> APC   
> Count:"1"=yes, Count:"0"=no or no value. Should be moved to
> an element describing technical characteristics of the
> <wagon/passanger> with bolean value later.
>
> other:SecurityCamera   
> Security camera    
> Trygghetskamera   
> Count:"1"=yes, Count:"0"=no or no value. Should be moved to
> an element describing technical characteristics of the
> <wagon/passanger> with bolean value later.
>
> As <places> leans towards TSI TAF/TAP code list 9039 and
> service towards code list 7161 we have tried to use the
> existing name where they exist and seem logical. But we
> reccomnd a later through meeting to go through a logical
> structure of places and service as the definitions in railML
> and the TAF/TAP seems somewhat incoherrent.
>
 
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