railML 2.3: Formation attributes shall have values > 0 [message #1320] |
Fri, 09 October 2015 15:01 |
Philip Wobst
Messages: 47 Registered: November 2013 Location: Hanover, Germany
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Dear all,
a change to the formation attributes was discussed at the last
coordinator meeting. The aim is to not allow values such as speed="0"
and length="0" for the element <formation>.
A TRAC ticket (#269, http://trac.railml.org/ticket/269) was created for
this change for the upcoming railML 2.3 version. Please provide
feedback/concerns in the forum till the end of October.
Best regards,
Philip
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Re: railML 2.3: Formation attributes shall have values > 0 [message #1322 is a reply to message #1321] |
Mon, 26 October 2015 15:52 |
Joerg von Lingen
Messages: 149 Registered: May 2011
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Remark on weights:
This is already clearly described in the wiki. The only definition I could find
in the www confirms this.
Gross/brutto weight (the total weight) = net weight (the weight of the goods) +
tare weight (the weight of the empty container)
Best regards,
Joerg v. Lingen
Rollingstock Coordinator
On 21.10.2015 15:08, Dirk Bräuer wrote:
> Dear Philip,
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> no objections from our side: Values =0 may be disallowed _if_ the corresponding
> attribute is optional.
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> But please be careful with attributes such as "formation/tareWeight" or
> "nettoWeight": What is the difference between both? In German, the rule is "Tara
> = Brutto - Netto". Therefore, tareWeight may be zero if bruttoWeight=nettoWeight
> and if tareWeight=Tara.
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> However, in the English wiki it is written:
> tareWeight: total tare weight (empty vehicles)
> nettoWeight: total net weight (payload only)
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> which is a little bit confusing for me. ("Payload only" suggests that
> nettoWeight is the load and tareWeight is the mass of the empty formation.)
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> If you disallow these values to be zero, you should define which is to be used
> for what. In my opinion, either tareWeight or nettoWeight must be allowed to be
> zero in case of formations of vehicles with no payload (engines/locomotives
> running light).
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> With best regards,
> Dirk.
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