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Re: reference from timetable's <stopDescription> to infrastructure's <stopPost> [message #899 is a reply to message #896] Mon, 26 November 2012 15:38 Go to previous message
Dirk Bräuer is currently offline  Dirk Bräuer
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Dear Christian and all others,

I totally agree with your commit - it fits to the conversation from
08.11.2012 [Re: "stop post" / "platform edge" reference from ocpTT].

For me, it seems to be sufficient to only have a reference to a <stopPost>
element...

The only thing is:

The 'platformEdgeRef' alone would not be redundant for the very special
case if there are two platform edges at the same track and the train is
scheduled to open the doors at one of them only...

To understand how it came to all the references, please follow the
discussions with the above named topic from 08.-09.11.2012 (Susanne
Wunsch, Andreas Tanner, Dirk Bräuer).

The main reasons were
- a /platformEdgeRef/ is not enough because there may be several stop
posts at one <platformEdge>,
- a /stopPostRef/ is not enough because there may be two platforms at
each side of a track...

But anyway, I still agree that the current suggested solution with all the
/platformEdgeRef/, /serviceSectionRef/, /stopPostRef/ is not satisfying.

As we already discussed on <stopPosts> and their additional properties,
the "selection" of a certain stop post (out from all stop posts which may
come available at a track) is operational rule and currently out of
RailML. Additionally, we have learned that a train of course may (have to)
stop in-between two stop posts. So, to use <stopPosts> for trains is not a
general accepted practice. It would possibly lead to the creation of many
virtual stop posts, one for each train, which is clearly not intended here
so far.

So, I would strongly welcome to create a /platformEdgeRef/ but no
/stopPostRef/.

If you agree, to clarify this I would recommend for Wiki:

"Normally, there is a range or section of track where trains should stop
regularly. These ranges may typically lay alongside platforms, loading
ramps, or (other) service sections. But they may also lay in "pure" tracks
(operational stops, freight-only tracks). The exact place to stop in this
range may depend on the train length and other aspects. <stopPost>
elements with the attribute /virtual/='true' (virtual stop posts) are
intended to describe the extends where these ranges start, end, or
significant intermediate places. They are not intended to "disintegrate" a
continuous range into discrete, deterministic steps."

Best regards,
Dirk.
 
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