| St. Andrews cross on road side signals [message #3763] |
Fri, 24 October 2025 10:58  |
Terje Nordal
Messages: 21
Registered: December 2023
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Dear all,
Referring to post #3007, which handles some road side equipment for level crossings (signals and barriers) that were introduced in railML 3.3, Bane NOR are interested in an extension to this. Our technical regulations (derived from requirements from the Norwegian road authorities) require us to equip most of our road side signals with a St. Andrews cross (please refer to the cross above the signal in the attachment).
In certain cases we exclude this cross (typically on platform access level crossings or in certain cases depending on the width of the road). This is something we would like to be able to model. I would propose some kind of flag for each road signal to either opt in or out of having such a cross; such as @hasStAndrewsCross or something similar.
Best regards
Terje Nordal
Bane NOR
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| Re: St. Andrews cross on road side signals [message #3821 is a reply to message #3763] |
Mon, 08 December 2025 07:49  |
christian.rahmig
Messages: 542
Registered: January 2016
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Dear Terje,
thank you for bringing up this idea.
Your solution proposal is a boolean attribute, which is the smallest possible model. Therefore, I want to ask, if there are any other information related to the St. Andrews Cross that you may want to model? For example, when its location is relevant, we need more than just a boolean attribute... So, what are your requirements? Btw, this question goes to the whole railML IS community, of course :-)
Best regards
Christian
Christian Rahmig – Infrastructure scheme coordinator
railML.org (Registry of Associations: VR 5750)
Altplauen 19h; 01187 Dresden; Germany www.railML.org
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| Re: St. Andrews cross on road side signals [message #3865 is a reply to message #3821] |
Mon, 12 January 2026 16:45 |
Fredrik Jönsson
Messages: 12
Registered: June 2024
Location: Sweden
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Hi
Like the Norwegian case the need of representing St. Andrews crosses also apply on the Swedish network. These normally exists at level crossings every time they are equiped with active protection like, acoustic bells, lights, barriers in different combinations. Level crossings with no active protection can also be equiped with only St.Andrew Crosses or together with "STOP" signs.
From our point of view the need is to know wether it exist or not, atleast when there is no active protection.
As it can be seen with STOP signs this can also be taken into account when modelling (possible other signs and combinations exists in different countries).
Best regards
Fredrik
Fredrik Jönsson
Trafikverket - Swedish Transport Administration
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| Re: St. Andrews cross on road side signals [message #3929 is a reply to message #3926] |
Mon, 09 March 2026 12:15 |
Terje Nordal
Messages: 21
Registered: December 2023
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Junior Member |
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Dear Christian,
As you presented in today´s workshop 32 (and as part of the linked Gitlab issue), there are two approaches to modelling the presence of a St. Andrew´s cross; either with a boolean attribute for the level crossing or for each individual road light.
As per my post #3917 on Monday 02.03.26 the latter approach is what would cover Bane NOR´s use case.
Best regards
Terje
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