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Re: Obligational stop [message #522 is a reply to message #516]

Tue, 12 March 2013 20:35

Dirk Bräuer
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Registered: August 2008

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Dear Susanne and all others,

> The described scenario is very specific to the German railway
> operations. In order to avoid country-specific operation rules in the
> context of the more general railML data exchange, the current
> implementation should be removed.

You want to decline a possibility for a mandatory stop post because you
think it's "too German" but you want to keep the place of
"Betriebsbremsung"?

I am very much wondering. It's a joke, isn't it?

A mandatory stop post is by far not German. As I already explained in this
thread earlier, they appear for instance also in many other countries.
RETB stop posts in UK, for instance.

On the contrary, I do not know any other country which has something like
"Betriebsbremsung". Despite being from Germany, I do not even really know
what to do at these places as a driver. The background is very old and
out-dated as so many other rules in Germany... But we have it in RailML!
Very good!

I am wondering. And I am learning. Thank you for that lesson.

Didn't we allow speed profiles depending on the greater "route" (or path)
of a train despite this is not very general and physical and happens in
Switzerland only? I can remember a discussion at a RailML conference where
the Swiss members said "ok but what should we do"? So why not using
"anyAttributes" for that? I know more countries with mandatory stops by
infrastructure than with path-dependent speeds.

Well, we have to be careful not to get much of the other's countries
specialties... I will keep an eye on it!

Dirk.

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		More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Fri, 18 November 2011 10:29
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Christian Rahmig on Mon, 19 December 2011 21:01
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Carsten Weber on Tue, 20 December 2011 23:53
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Thu, 05 January 2012 12:40
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Carsten Weber on Mon, 09 January 2012 15:35
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Mon, 09 January 2012 17:37
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Carsten Weber on Wed, 11 January 2012 20:42
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Sat, 14 January 2012 00:06
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Carsten Weber on Mon, 23 January 2012 17:02
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Christian Rahmig on Wed, 25 January 2012 22:08
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Tue, 24 April 2012 23:31
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Christian Rahmig on Sat, 16 June 2012 18:59
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Fri, 29 June 2012 10:40
		Re: More detailed 'speed change' definitions By: Dirk Bräuer on Fri, 29 June 2012 19:50
		Required 'id' attributes (was: More detailed 'speed change' definitions) By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Wed, 07 November 2012 14:25
		Re: Required 'id' attributes (was: More detailed 'speed change' definitions) By: Dirk Bräuer on Thu, 08 November 2012 21:06
		Logical constraints for speed profile characteristics (was: More detailed 'speed change' definitions) By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Mon, 12 November 2012 13:07
		Blocking of infrastructure elements (was: More detailed 'speed change' definitions) By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Mon, 12 November 2012 13:11
		Re: Blocking of infrastructure elements By: Christian Rahmig on Mon, 02 December 2013 11:43
		Obligational stop (was: More detailed 'speed change' definitions) By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Mon, 12 November 2012 13:17
		Re: Obligational stop By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Mon, 11 March 2013 14:38
		Re: Obligational stop By: Dirk Bräuer on Tue, 12 March 2013 20:35
		Re: Obligational stop By: Susanne Wunsch railML on Tue, 12 March 2013 22:57
		Re: Obligational stop By: Dirk Bräuer on Wed, 13 March 2013 21:09
		Re: Obligational stop By: thomas.kauer on Fri, 15 March 2013 15:38
		Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing (was: Obligational stop) By: christian.rahmig on Wed, 05 April 2017 13:48
		Re: Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing By: Dirk Bräuer on Thu, 18 May 2017 18:56
		Re: Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing By: christian.rahmig on Mon, 12 February 2018 13:39
		Re: Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing By: Dirk Bräuer on Wed, 14 February 2018 10:38
		Re: Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing By: christian.rahmig on Wed, 30 May 2018 14:04
		Re: Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing By: Thomas Nygreen JBD on Mon, 04 June 2018 12:41
		Re: Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing By: christian.rahmig on Mon, 04 June 2018 13:00
		Re: Mandatory stops e.g. before a level crossing By: Dirk Bräuer on Mon, 03 September 2018 19:28

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