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Wiki pages set to "outdated" [message #1389] Wed, 29 June 2016 15:05 Go to next message
Dirk Bräuer is currently offline  Dirk Bräuer
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Dear <timetable> community,

this message is because of the wiki pages [1] and [2] have recently been
set to "outdated" by Ferri Leberl.

In my opinion, these pages are not outdated.

- They refer to version 2.0. As there is the rule "no major changes in
minor version" in railML, they cannot be outdated since there is no
version 3 so far.

- In [1] (Train coupling and sharing), the information is very general
and I do not see how or when it will be outdated at all. There may be
changes necessary in when there will be railML <timetable> 3 version,
but so far, there is none.

- In [2] (Reversing trains and formations), I do not see which attribute
or element of railML 2.3 has outdated this information. I am not sure in
this point, so dear Ferri Leberl, please tell me which attribute
justifies this "outdated" in your opinion.

Dear Ferri Leberl, we are happy if you try to find such places, call our
attention on discrepancies and ask us whether they may be outdated. But
please do not set any wiki pages to "outdated" after a getting at least
on positive forum reply about it. This shall avoid confusion in the
wiki's history or if anybody looks at these pages in between.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Dirk Bräuer.

[1] https://wiki.railml.org/index.php?title=TT:Train_Coupling_An d_Sharing
[2]
https://wiki.railml.org/index.php?title=TT:Reversing_trains_ and_formations
Re: Wiki pages set to "outdated" [message #1390 is a reply to message #1389] Thu, 30 June 2016 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
iruldacunha is currently offline  iruldacunha
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Like Dirk, I don't understand why some parts of those articles are marked "outdated". 2.2 and 2.3 versions, in my opinion, didn't change things explained in those articles.

[Updated on: Thu, 30 June 2016 09:14]

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Re: Wiki pages set to "outdated" [message #1391 is a reply to message #1390] Thu, 30 June 2016 14:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dirk Bräuer is currently offline  Dirk Bräuer
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Dear Illan,

thank you for your reply and for your agreement.

Best regards,
Dirk.
Re: Wiki pages set to "outdated" [message #1392 is a reply to message #1391] Thu, 30 June 2016 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
iruldacunha is currently offline  iruldacunha
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You're welcome. Smile
Re: Wiki pages set to "outdated" [message #1393 is a reply to message #1389] Fri, 01 July 2016 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vpkolmorgen
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Hello and thank you for your post.

Dirk Bräuer wrote on Wed, 29 June 2016 15:05

- In [1] (Train coupling and sharing), the information is very general
and I do not see how or when it will be outdated at all. There may be
changes necessary in when there will be railML <timetable> 3 version,
but so far, there is none.


The information in the Train coupling and sharing wiki page was not correct, as there was stated, that
railML's wiki
One of the base philosophies of version 2.0 of railML is to satisfy the many requirements of every-day railway operation

which is not true as we want to serve the railway community in every-day railway operation also in Version 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 (maybe 2.x) and 3.1, ....

So I rephrased the initial sentences to clarify railML's goal and took away the direct wording to the old (but still suppported!) version 2.0 and fixed a typo. Now I removed the Outdated remark and everything should be fine. Correct the article if you think that something shall be explained better!

Could someone do the same work in the TT:Reversing trains and formations wiki article too?

Dirk Bräuer wrote on Wed, 29 June 2016 15:05

Dear Ferri Leberl, we are happy if you try to find such places, call our
attention on discrepancies and ask us whether they may be outdated. But
please do not set any wiki pages to "outdated" after a getting at least
on positive forum reply about it. This shall avoid confusion in the
wiki's history or if anybody looks at these pages in between.

I think the work structure as agreed in the Coordinators meeting works here fine. Mr. Mag. Ferri Leberl does not have the railway and XML knowlegde and also time to correct or discuss all the issues by himself. His work is to crawl through the forum and to find (maybe with some misunderstandings too) possible errors, outdated issues and thinks to be extended and fixed.
With the standardized remarks of articles which needs a revision like
an easy overview can be gathered.

Best regards,

Vasco Paul Kolmorgen
Re: Wiki pages set to "outdated" [message #1394 is a reply to message #1393] Wed, 06 July 2016 15:57 Go to previous message
Dirk Bräuer is currently offline  Dirk Bräuer
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Am 01.07.2016 um 13:52 schrieb Vasco Paul Kolmorgen:
> Could someone do the same work in the
> https://wiki.railml.org/index.php?title=TT:Reversing_trains_ and_formations
> too?

I compared the schemes of v2.2 and v2.3 and found no changes concerning
reversing. So, the wiki page should still be "in-dated". I removed
"outdated" from the page.

Best regards,
Dirk.
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