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Certification of import-program and "lineRef" [message #1276] Tue, 27 January 2015 06:26 Go to next message
yutaka.manchu is currently offline  yutaka.manchu
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Registered: September 2014
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Dear All,

This question is about the certification of import-program from
railML2.2, but it might be related to the topic:"Aspects of timetable
3.0"*1 written by Burkhard on 16 Oct., 2014.

*1) http://www.railml.org/forum/ro/?group=2&offset=0&thr ead=117&id=418

[Case]: Toshiba's system*2 requires "lineRef" attribute of "sectionTT"
when importing a railML file, to generate each "train".

*2) http://www.toshiba-sol.co.jp/english/industry/trueline/index .htm

"sectionTT" could refer either "line" and "track"s.

I am aware that there's a sample railML file:"Ostsachsen V220.xml"*3 that
has "lineRef", but almost all sample files like "TT_S-Bahn_ZH.xml" do not
have "lineRef" and my system could not import them at all.

*3) http://www.irfp.de/deutsch/fbs/schnittstelle_railml_entwickl er.html

1) Could Toshiba's system get the import-program-certification, even if it
can only import the railML files with "lineRef"?

2) Could "railML 3" that has macro(line), meso and micro(tracks) levels
deal with this problem somehow?

Best regards,
Utah (Yutaka Manchu)

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Re: Certification of import-program and "lineRef" [message #1277 is a reply to message #1276] Mon, 09 February 2015 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Christian Rahmig is currently offline  Christian Rahmig
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Dear Utah,

thank you for your message that is to some extend also related to the
infrastructure schema. Therefore, please find my comments on your
questions below:

Am 27.01.2015 um 06:26 schrieb Yutaka Manchu:
> Dear All,
>
> This question is about the certification of import-program from
> railML2.2, but it might be related to the topic:"Aspects of timetable
> 3.0"*1 written by Burkhard on 16 Oct., 2014.
>
> *1) http://www.railml.org/forum/ro/?group=2&offset=0&thr ead=117&id=418
>
> [Case]: Toshiba's system*2 requires "lineRef" attribute of "sectionTT"
> when importing a railML file, to generate each "train".
>
> *2) http://www.toshiba-sol.co.jp/english/industry/trueline/index .htm
>
> "sectionTT" could refer either "line" and "track"s.
>
> I am aware that there's a sample railML file:"Ostsachsen V220.xml"*3 that
> has "lineRef", but almost all sample files like "TT_S-Bahn_ZH.xml" do not
> have "lineRef" and my system could not import them at all.
>
> *3) http://www.irfp.de/deutsch/fbs/schnittstelle_railml_entwickl er.html
>
> 1) Could Toshiba's system get the import-program-certification, even if it
> can only import the railML files with "lineRef"?

If your specific use case connected with the import of railML data
requires the existence of the <lineRef> attribute (and thus the <line>
element as part of the railway infrastructure), then it is clear that
your import interface can only be verified using railML files that
contain these information.

> 2) Could "railML 3" that has macro(line), meso and micro(tracks) levels
> deal with this problem somehow?

Yes, we are going to solve this problem with our use case approach: As
each use case requires different data regarding railway infrastructure,
timetable, etc., it is necessary to categorize these use cases and to
specify their elements and parameters. An import/export interface for
railML3 will be designed to suit certain use cases. Consequently, it
will be clear what kind of elements the interface requires.

Best regards

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railML.infrastructure coordinator
Re: Certification of import-program and "lineRef" [message #1278 is a reply to message #1277] Tue, 10 February 2015 00:41 Go to previous message
yutaka.manchu is currently offline  yutaka.manchu
Messages: 11
Registered: September 2014
Junior Member
Dear Christian,

Thank you for replying to my questions!

"use case" mechanism sounds good to improve the interoperability of
railML. :-)

Best regards,
Utah (Yutaka Manchu)


Christian Rahmig wrote:
>
> Dear Utah,
>
> thank you for your message that is to some extend also related to the
> infrastructure schema. Therefore, please find my comments on your
> questions below:
>
> Am 27.01.2015 um 06:26 schrieb Yutaka Manchu:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> This question is about the certification of import-program from
>> railML2.2, but it might be related to the topic:"Aspects of timetable
>> 3.0"*1 written by Burkhard on 16 Oct., 2014.
>>
>> *1) http://www.railml.org/forum/ro/?group=2&offset=0&thr ead=117&id=418
>>
>> [Case]: Toshiba's system*2 requires "lineRef" attribute of "sectionTT"
>> when importing a railML file, to generate each "train".
>>
>> *2) http://www.toshiba-sol.co.jp/english/industry/trueline/index .htm
>>
>> "sectionTT" could refer either "line" and "track"s.
>>
>> I am aware that there's a sample railML file:"Ostsachsen V220.xml"*3 that
>> has "lineRef", but almost all sample files like "TT_S-Bahn_ZH.xml" do not
>> have "lineRef" and my system could not import them at all.
>>
>> *3) http://www.irfp.de/deutsch/fbs/schnittstelle_railml_entwickl er.html
>>
>> 1) Could Toshiba's system get the import-program-certification, even if it
>> can only import the railML files with "lineRef"?
>
> If your specific use case connected with the import of railML data
> requires the existence of the <lineRef> attribute (and thus the <line>
> element as part of the railway infrastructure), then it is clear that
> your import interface can only be verified using railML files that
> contain these information.
>
>> 2) Could "railML 3" that has macro(line), meso and micro(tracks) levels
>> deal with this problem somehow?
>
> Yes, we are going to solve this problem with our use case approach: As
> each use case requires different data regarding railway infrastructure,
> timetable, etc., it is necessary to categorize these use cases and to
> specify their elements and parameters. An import/export interface for
> railML3 will be designed to suit certain use cases. Consequently, it
> will be clear what kind of elements the interface requires.
>
> Best regards
>



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