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Introduction of TAF-TSI PrimaryLocationCode as reference [message #555] Wed, 14 May 2014 14:54 Go to next message
stefan.jugelt is currently offline  stefan.jugelt
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Dear all,

as proposed during the railML-conference in Braunschweig, I would suggest
some changes for railML to incorporate requirements from the telematics
appplications for passengers and freight (TAF/TAP TSI).

1. The element "tsi" in operationalControlPoints/ocp/ and the type
"tOcpTsi" shall be marked as deprecated and removed in further versions of
railML. These elements dedicated for the usage in conjunction with TAP TSI
shall be replced by a more generic approach as proposed in bullet point 2.

2. The file Registers.xml shall be extended by an addtional entry:

<register code="PrimaryLocationCode">
<name>Primary location code for the TAF/TAP TSI, stored in the central
reference database</name>
<organization xml:lang="en">CRD</organization>
<remarks xml:lang="en">Used for the communication between the railway
undertaking and the infrastructure manager. format: country code as
ISO-3366-1 + 5 digits</remarks>
</register>

Maybe in the future addtional items shall be add to this register:
- codes for tariff purposes (e.g. company specific coding of tariff
points for NRT-fares, formerly known as TCV fares, company specific code
for IRT-fares)
- reservation code

I would suggest to add them, if the outcome of the current discussion in
TAF/TAP TSI about the retail refernece data - used for timetabling
information for the passenger, tariff data exchange and reservation
messages - is mature enough to be incorporated in railML.


Kind regards,

Stefanm Jugelt

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Re: Introduction of TAF-TSI PrimaryLocationCode as reference [message #556 is a reply to message #555] Mon, 26 May 2014 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Christian Rahmig is currently offline  Christian Rahmig
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Registered: January 2011
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Dear Stefan,

thank you for your remarks, which I want to comment on:

Am 14.05.2014 14:54, schrieb Stefan Jugelt:
> Dear all,
>
> as proposed during the railML-conference in Braunschweig, I would suggest
> some changes for railML to incorporate requirements from the telematics
> appplications for passengers and freight (TAF/TAP TSI).
>
> 1. The element "tsi" in operationalControlPoints/ocp/ and the type
> "tOcpTsi" shall be marked as deprecated and removed in further versions of
> railML. These elements dedicated for the usage in conjunction with TAP TSI
> shall be replced by a more generic approach as proposed in bullet point 2.

I opened a ticket addressing that issue [1]. If agreed by the users, the
marking can be realized with the next railML version.

> 2. The file Registers.xml shall be extended by an addtional entry:
>
> <register code="PrimaryLocationCode">
> <name>Primary location code for the TAF/TAP TSI, stored in the central
> reference database</name>
> <organization xml:lang="en">CRD</organization>
> <remarks xml:lang="en">Used for the communication between the railway
> undertaking and the infrastructure manager. format: country code as
> ISO-3366-1 + 5 digits</remarks>
> </register>

I added the proposed entry in Registers.xml and gave it the code "PLC".
Please have a look at the latest version of railML SVN directory trunk
and give me a feedback.

> Maybe in the future addtional items shall be add to this register:
> - codes for tariff purposes (e.g. company specific coding of tariff
> points for NRT-fares, formerly known as TCV fares, company specific code
> for IRT-fares)
> - reservation code
>
> I would suggest to add them, if the outcome of the current discussion in
> TAF/TAP TSI about the retail refernece data - used for timetabling
> information for the passenger, tariff data exchange and reservation
> messages - is mature enough to be incorporated in railML.

Ok, I'll wait for your suggestions at the end of the current discussion.
Thank you!

[1] https://trac.railml.org/ticket/252

Best regards

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Re: Introduction of TAF-TSI PrimaryLocationCode as reference [message #1233 is a reply to message #556] Mon, 01 December 2014 21:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Christian Rahmig is currently offline  Christian Rahmig
Messages: 151
Registered: January 2011
Senior Member
Dear everyone,

> Am 14.05.2014 14:54, schrieb Stefan Jugelt:
>>
>> 1. The element "tsi" in operationalControlPoints/ocp/ and the type
>> "tOcpTsi" shall be marked as deprecated and removed in further
>> versions of
>> railML. These elements dedicated for the usage in conjunction with TAP
>> TSI
>> shall be replced by a more generic approach as proposed in bullet
>> point 2.
>
> I opened a ticket addressing that issue [1]. If agreed by the users, the
> marking can be realized with the next railML version.
>
>> 2. The file Registers.xml shall be extended by an addtional entry:
>>
>> <register code="PrimaryLocationCode">
>> <name>Primary location code for the TAF/TAP TSI, stored in the
>> central
>> reference database</name>
>> <organization xml:lang="en">CRD</organization>
>> <remarks xml:lang="en">Used for the communication between the
>> railway
>> undertaking and the infrastructure manager. format: country code as
>> ISO-3366-1 + 5 digits</remarks>
>> </register>
>
> [1] https://trac.railml.org/ticket/252

The modifications described here and in ticket #252 have been
implemented with SVN revision 611.

Best regards

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Christian Rahmig
railML.infrastructure coordinator
Re: Introduction of TAF-TSI PrimaryLocationCode as reference [message #1247 is a reply to message #1233] Wed, 11 February 2015 10:01 Go to previous message
stefan.jugelt is currently offline  stefan.jugelt
Messages: 5
Registered: May 2014
Junior Member
Christian Rahmig wrote:
>
> Dear everyone,
>
>> Am 14.05.2014 14:54, schrieb Stefan Jugelt:
>>>
>>> 1. The element "tsi" in operationalControlPoints/ocp/ and the type
>>> "tOcpTsi" shall be marked as deprecated and removed in further
>>> versions of
>>> railML. These elements dedicated for the usage in conjunction with TAP
>>> TSI
>>> shall be replced by a more generic approach as proposed in bullet
>>> point 2.
>>
>> I opened a ticket addressing that issue [1]. If agreed by the users, the
>> marking can be realized with the next railML version.
>>
>>> 2. The file Registers.xml shall be extended by an addtional entry:
>>>
>>> <register code="PrimaryLocationCode">
>>> <name>Primary location code for the TAF/TAP TSI, stored in the
>>> central
>>> reference database</name>
>>> <organization xml:lang="en">CRD</organization>
>>> <remarks xml:lang="en">Used for the communication between the
>>> railway
>>> undertaking and the infrastructure manager. format: country code as
>>> ISO-3366-1 + 5 digits</remarks>
>>> </register>
>>
>> [1] https://trac.railml.org/ticket/252
>
> The modifications described here and in ticket #252 have been
> implemented with SVN revision 611.
>
> Best regards
>

Dear Christian,

I agree with the change.

Best regards,

Stefan Jugelt

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